Smart Real Estate Moves: How To Create Wealth With A Resilient Mindset With Jennifer Butcher

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Discover how to create wealth with a resilient mindset in this episode featuring Jennifer Butcher, a powerhouse mortgage advisor with over two decades of experience! Jennifer shares her unfiltered journey from burnout in corporate sales to building immense generational wealth through strategic real estate investments. You'll hear how she embraced her "feminine power" to overcome early insecurities, made bold moves into commercial real estate, and learned to balance the "seasons of hustle" with "seasons of grace." This conversation is packed with authentic insights on navigating entrepreneurship's toughest lessons, the importance of self-awareness, and why Jennifer launched her "She Talks Money" podcast to empower women to achieve financial freedom and power. Tune in for actionable advice on everything from outsourcing to building a personalized success blueprint, all delivered with Jennifer's signature down-to-earth style and passion for helping you become the boss of your own life and chase those God-sized dreams.

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Smart Real Estate Moves: How To Create Wealth With A Resilient Mindset With Jennifer Butcher

Welcome back to the show. You are in for a treat. I was looking forward to this all day. I've had back-to-back meetings, Zooms, and all the craziness. This is going to be the highlight. I have a great friend of mine, Jennifer Butcher, who is a top-producing mortgage advisor with over 24 years of experience. I love that she helps homebuyers, investors, and high-achieving women to build real wealth through smart real estate moves. You know that that's my heartbeat. I've been doing that since I was in my twenties.

Known for her truly down-to-earth style and strategic approach, she's not just about getting people into homes. It's not a number for her. She's on a mission to educate and empower others to create financial freedom and generational wealth. You could not be preaching that louder on this show. That's what I'm all about.

Jennifer is also the host of She Talks Money. You need to tune in. We did an episode. I listen to her podcast episodes. What I love about it is that they are bite-sized pieces to break it down. She talks about money, mindset, and multiple streams of income. Through her episodes and interviews with experts, she breaks down real estate strategies and basic, real strategies for success, covering anywhere from home ownership and investing to hormone health and burnout recovery.

I love that she looks at success in that total wellness wheel, because you can have all the money in the world, but if you're sick, good luck with your life. I love that she takes that total wellness approach. Whether she's guiding clients through creative financing options or helping women reclaim their power with money, Jennifer brings a unique mix of experience, education, and heart to everything she does. Without further ado, Jennifer, welcome.

Best intro ever. Thank you so much for having me. I feel like from the moment we met, we're so in tune with one another and all about the same thing. It's an honor to be here. Thank you.

From Burnout To Mortgages: Jennifer''s Origin Story

I am so grateful that you are here. We met because she sent me over a lead for the Naples area. She's like, “Can you help me with this client?” I seriously love that client. I still chat with her. She referred me to a doctor. It's so fun how it all works out. What I love about Jen is that she is so down to earth, but she also gives you tangible steps to truly build out that wealth journey. Especially if your parents haven't taught you that or you're a little bit intimidated to step out in faith, she walks you through piece by piece.

I want to go back to the beginning of when you started your business and why you started in the mortgage arena. I love that she's not just a mortgage broker. She is a very well-rounded wealth of knowledge to help you expedite your journey to building generational wealth. Thanks for not staying in the box. I don't think I've had an in-the-box person on this show. Let's go back to when you started in mortgages and why.

This is an interesting story because I've been doing it for so long. I was young. At the time, I graduated from college, and my husband, who was my boyfriend at the time, was an economics major. He was super into finance and ended up in the mortgage business. This was early on, like the first round of interest rates coming down. He was doing well and was super busy.

The flip side of things is that I took an outside business-to-business sales job. I was driving 150 miles a day between where I lived and my office. My territory was part of downtown Minneapolis, which is crazy to drive around and park. It was business-to-business. It was the best foundational sales experience I could have ever asked for. It was hardcore, throw you to the wolves, like, “This is what you need to do.”

I don't regret it. It was amazing, but I burnt out fast from it. The amount of travel was overwhelming. I would come home at night and hear my husband talking on the phone to his clients. He was a direct client-facing. He's helping people buy houses. I could hear clients almost crying on the phone about how excited they were to save money because he was helping them pay off debt. The impact felt way deeper than what I was doing in my career.

As I was burning out, we bought our first house. I shouldn't admit this online, but I quit my job two days later because there ended up being an opening at the mortgage company where he was. He said, “You're hating what you're doing now. Why don't you come try this?” I thought he was crazy. I'm like, “We're going to work together. This could ruin us.” I took the plunge and went in with faith. Here we are 24 years later, still working together. We haven't killed each other yet.

That is very impressive.

We built a successful branch. Not only that, people do laugh and say, “I could never work with my husband.” Part of the strength of our marriage is the fact that we do understand one another's stress. We're real estate investors, so we both are passionate about that. Not to say there aren't days I shut and lock my office or we have to cut the pillow talk, like, “We're not talking about loans or real estate right now,” but it has been great. We both still love it.

That has been a dream of mine. My parents have worked together from the jump when they got married. That was a hesitation with Brian. I was like, “We're in different arenas. You're in insurance. I'm in real estate.” I always wanted us to be that real estate mogul power couple. We're morphing. We've already bought properties together and all of that.

Feminine Power & Fearless Investing: Building Wealth With Confidence

It can always look different, but I always think it's so cool when you can pull off the husband and wife power team. With you starting so young, was it a pretty easy road to the top type of thing as you got your clients? Were there a lot of bumps in the road? What would you say was maybe your biggest struggle? How did you overcome it on the way to building your business with him?

I was thinking about this because I was talking to other women. When I was that young, I tried to put myself out there, and I would find myself in these networking groups surrounded by mainly very experienced men. It was a humbling moment because I was insecure at the time. I was like, “What am I doing here? How do I possibly think that I could be this successful? Little old young me. What do I know?”

Over the course of the next year or so, I realized my feminine power is what made me me, and I brought things to the table that they couldn't. Not to be male-female, but I listen to clients differently. The perspective that I brought and the way that I analyzed debt or solutions was different than anybody else. As soon as I saw that, I leaned into who I was instead of worrying about what other people were doing. That was the first step to catapulting my career.

It's so important for you to own your zone of genius. Sometimes, people would look at certain things like, “That's a weakness.” That can be a superpower if you treat it as that. It's the story that you're telling yourself from the get-go. You could have been like, “I'm so intimidated by all these other guys in the room. What do I have to offer X, Y, Z?”

I've even told a lot of entrepreneurs, “What you don't know might be your biggest asset.” Ignorance on fire is bliss. Even people who have partnered up with me with the Inc 500 company, some of them that know the least, but are coachable and teachable, fly past the people that have been with it for years, because they don't get bogged down in protocol.

One of my strengths is that I can pivot. If I run into a wall, I’m like, “That plan didn't work all the way I thought it was going to, but now we're going to try it this angle and pivot.” That's one of my strengths. I don't get caught up in that box. I'm like, “If it doesn't work this way, we will find a solution another way.”

If you could tell yourself one piece of advice in your twenties, what would it be?

I wish I was less afraid a lot earlier in my life. I wish that I had been taught earlier that if you are not a little scared of what you're doing, you're not trying hard enough. I wish I had pushed myself even further outside of my comfort zone sooner than I did. The hindsight is 20/20. We have to go through life, and we have to learn things.

If you're not a little scared of what you're doing, you're not trying hard enough.

It was when I pushed myself outside my comfort zone that my confidence started to skyrocket because I started to realize that the things I can accomplish and do are far beyond what I imagined. My confidence took off, and then I started going after and chasing other things. I would say don't let fear hold you back. If you're not a little bit scared, then you're maybe not doing the right thing or trying hard enough.

I always say at the end of my show, “Fire your fear, build your faith, and become the boss of your own life.” That is what it's all about. What was that tipping point for you when you decided, “I'm not going to care what people think. I'm not going to care even if I fall flat on my face.” What was that first bold move that you took that helped you make that leap?

I have told people this, too. A lot of what set us up for success was that when we were young, we were smart enough to live below our means for a long time. Part of that was also not wanting to necessarily admit to my success. To some family, friends, and circles, I had to hide how well we were doing. Our big breakthrough was when we finally moved out of our house and chose to rent it out instead of selling it.

People were like, “You don't have to sell that house. You don't need that money to buy the next house.” I was like, “I don't.” Shortly after that, we made a big investment in some commercial stuff. It was bold. It was a decision that we analyzed carefully. It's a huge part of our wealth, so I'm glad that we made it, and I did it unapologetically. That was one of the first things I did in that mindset that I was like, “I don't have to explain this. I don't have to feel shame around it. We've worked hard to be able to do this.” Here we are.

What a gift that you can give yourself. I've always said, “Give yourself the permission to grab the pen and write your own story.” The default story in the United States, Lord knows I want nothing to do with that. What can you do? Who are the mentors that you can go around or be around? Put yourself in those rooms where they can challenge your status quo. You are the combination of your five closest friends, books that you read, and places that you go. We all know that. How can you create that environment? For you, what was that tipping point that you guys were saying, “Let's rent out this place?” How did you learn about the commercial options?

By who you surround yourself with. It was the people that we had networked with. That particular opportunity came about through a cousin of my husband who is well-to-do. He got us within the right circle, and that's how that opportunity came up. I can't speak for others, but I know for myself at that age that if I was going to go to a networking event, I wanted to drag someone with me. Sometimes, for women, it's intimidating to go into a room, be surrounded by, network, and speak to other very successful women.

If you are in a room with other people, male or female, who are equal to you and they're doing the same thing you do, or they're not up a level or a notch, you are in the wrong room. You need to be in rooms with people who are above you, and then you need to be asking questions, like, “What is your portfolio? How did you do this?” You'll find the right mentors. That's key.

You need to be in rooms with people who are above you and then you need to be asking questions.

When you're aligning yourself with the right people who are where you want to be, those are the people you should be surrounding yourself with, talking to, and learning from. You will skyrocket and take off. That was the key. It was letting go of that fear and choosing to go to the events that I felt were out of my league. I went anyway, and I spoke to people anyway. That created relationships that led to opportunities that have led to the success that we've had.

Seasons Of Hustle & Grace: Balancing Ambition And Life

That's so good. One of my mentors challenged us to go on out-of-league lunches where you were nervous to reach out to that person, but you're like, “I'm going to bring the value that I bring to the table.” You'd be amazed by how much each and every one of us has God-given resources that other people need. We just don't realize it. They may be ahead in the XYZ area, but maybe not in this other area. You guys can work synergistically off of each other. Having that type of mindset is everything. For you, with all the amazing people that you've surrounded yourself with, what would you say is the best piece of advice you've ever received?

This one sticks out because it has been a little bit of a part of my playbook the last few years. I keep saying women, but that's who I relate to. It is high-achieving women, especially those who are having children, who are moms, who are running a household, and who are doing all of these things. We have a lot on our plates. There's nothing wrong with that. Some women are comfortable. That's all that they want to do. They want to stay home with the kids, and that is 1000% okay. For those of us who have that drive, and you know it because you've got it, we were driven to do more.

I had a coach tell me, “You are going to go through seasons. You sometimes have to give yourself grace.” I can't remember. I need to look up the woman who said this. She is a very top, high-end person. She gets asked all the time, “How do you do all that you do? How are you so great at everything that you do?” She's like, “I'm not. That's the truth. When you see me succeeding in my career and I'm doing all of these things, I've missed bedtime stories, or I feel like I'm failing as a parent. When you see my Instagram and I'm with my kids and on vacation, I'm missing important meetings, or I've had to let work take the back seat.”

We can't do it all. That coach taught me that there are seasons of hustle, and then there are seasons where you give yourself grace. When I'm with my kids, I am very intentional. I am loving and doting on them, and making sure that they know I'm always present. When I am in work mode, business mode, or in a season where I need to grind, I grind. I am up at 4:00 AM.

There are seasons of hustle and then there are seasons where you give yourself grace.

I am hustling and pushing because I know that I'm sacrificing over here, and I want to make it worthwhile. She gave me permission to do that. That was the key to lighting me on fire to say, “I can do this, and I don't have to feel guilty about it.” I'm always present with my kids, and I have hard cutoffs, but for a long time, I felt bad about wanting to succeed. That helped me balance it all.

That spoke to me. That was a big reason why I didn't get married until I was older. That was a big reason why I didn't want to start trying to build a family. I was like, “It's going to slow me down in this area.” When you think about the total wellness concept, what is success to you? What is significant to you? There is no such thing as balance, but you can give yourself the freedom to say, “When I'm all in over here, I'm all in over here. I might be missing some things on this side for a period of time, but it’s all worth it in the long term of what this is going to create so that it can build that beautiful life that I ultimately want.”

That is so true.

I love that advice. Thank you. That was for the ladies.

I give you permission.

We all need that, even preach that. I've been preaching that probably before eighteen, even to close friends and family, of giving yourself that permission. Sometimes, you can get so wrapped up in your own stuff that you forget to give yourself that permission. That honestly was a tipping point for me. I was around my 30s, going to my first mastermind out of state, and meeting with all these other very successful business owners.

The Toughest Entrepreneurial Lesson: The Power Of Letting Go

One of my mentors was Chris Harder. I love him and his wife, Lori. They're phenomenal. He was always telling us, “What are those strongholds that are holding you back from that next level? You need to give yourself that permission and be unapologetic,” like what you talked about. In all the years of doing mortgages and being an entrepreneur, what is one of the toughest lessons that you've had to learn?

This is something that was difficult for me because I am a doer. Nobody is going to do it as well as I do. We all have confidence in ourselves. Our level of expectation is sky high. One of the hardest things for me was to let go and realize, “If I want to take my business to the next level, I have to let go. I have to let go of some clients and let other people on my team handle them. I have to let my assistant take over some of this admin stuff that I should not be doing. I need to trust that it's going to work out. People are going to make mistakes. I have to be patient.” It was a real lesson.

I'm sales strong. I wasn't leadership strong. From a mindset, I had to let go a little bit, and then I also had to study and learn how to lead so that I could set my other people up for success as well. That's an ongoing skill. I'm still learning. That was the hardest lesson because I felt like I was stuck for a long time. When you're stuck, in my opinion, the best place to look is in the mirror. Reflect a little bit and say, “I'm creating this.”

I had a coach who had me write down everything that I do in a day for a week, and then analyze, “What do I enjoy doing? What don't I enjoy doing? What kind of clients do I like to work with, and who don't I? What should I divvy out and outsource what shouldn't be on my plate or I don't want on my plate, so that I can focus on growing what I do want?” That made a huge difference.

I've done that before, too. It is amazing. When you start writing down half an hour by half an hour what you are doing with your time, it can be like I'm hitting on all cylinders, or I have a lot of course corrections that I need to do, and be self-aware of where your time is going. That can give you your time back. That can give you more leverage the whole way around. That is such a powerful exercise. It’s so good. If they started their own business, what would be your best advice to give them if they wanted to start from the ground up?

If you're starting your own business, I would create your map. When I joined a new coaching program a couple of years ago, after 23 years in this business, I went back to the basics. I went back to what my strengths and weaknesses are. I analyzed myself first, and then I looked at my short-term and long-term goals. Where do I want to be? Do I have a 3-month goal or a 6-month goal? What is my one-year goal? What is my three, five, or ten-year goal?

Have it mapped out as to where you want to be and what you want to accomplish because there are going to be times when you're in the mud and you need to look at that and reset. Remember the big picture. Make sure that you have a blueprint of where you want to go and what you're going to accomplish, and then break things down into nugget-sized pieces and stay focused.

After we have been in business for so long, sometimes, we forget some of the basics. The basics are there because they work. Every day, I have a calendar. I’m like, “Who are the top 4 or 5 people I have to talk to today? What are the top three things I have to get done today? What are the hardest things that I have to get done today?” I want to bite them off right away in the morning and get them done.

If I were starting over, I would also make sure that you're making time for yourself to take care of yourself. Otherwise, you're setting yourself up to fail if you are not taking care of yourself. I eat healthy. I meal prep every week. I workout. I meditate. I'm doing things to care for myself every single day and making sure those routines are in place and set so that I can be at 100% the rest of my day for work and my family.

Make time to take care of yourself. Otherwise, you're setting yourself up to fail.

Out of all the different things that you do on a daily basis, what would be the best habit that's contributed to your success?

Making sure I get enough sleep. I was very guilty for a few years there. I was getting maybe five hours, and that nipped me in the butt. Make sure that you get enough sleep. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. I workout in the morning. I feel like the side benefit of working out is being in shape. For me, it's my mental health. I workout for my mental health because it starts my day out right. I am energized. I can sluff off any stress that I might be carrying already, and it sets up the rest of my day for success. I would say A) Getting enough sleep, and then getting a workout in and fueling yourself right, and then chopping up and getting done the hard things right away at the beginning of the day.

She Talks Money: Empowering Women With Financial Freedom

I want to pivot a little bit and talk about why you started your podcast. I'm always curious why people who have been doing their career and have had high-level success branch out and do other things. I know that you're a big advocate for multiple streams of income. I want you to talk a little bit more about what instigated the podcast, and then also talk about your view on those multiple streams of income and why you think that's important.

I went through this. Jen was lost for a little period of time. I was feeling called to do something even more. I've been in the mortgage business for a long time. I'm still continually trying to build that business bigger and bigger, but I felt this whisper. There's something else that I'm supposed to be doing. For a little while, I thought it was coaching other mortgage people or building up my business to a point where I could coach other people. I then was like, “That doesn't feel right to me.” I would meditate, and I prayed so hard on it, like, “God, can you whisper? Can you tell me? Can you give me a sign?” I felt like it was right there. I could almost grab it, but I couldn't define it yet.

My social media manager and I were talking about content. She brought it up. I listen to podcasts all the time, and I've been on podcasts. She was like, “Some of your best content is when you're talking on a podcast and the things that come out of your mouth. It's great content. You should start a podcast.” I was like, “Okay.” With everything else on my plate, that's what I do. I knew nothing about it, but it was like the seed was planted. All of a sudden, it was like, “That's it. That's what you're supposed to be doing.”

Being the Type A person that I am, I wanted to have everything mapped out. I felt like I had to learn it all and do all of the things. I finally heard this voice, like, “Are you going to do it already or not?” I was like, “Okay.” I took some photos. We did some brand stuff. I had two guests ready, and then I announced the launch. I know myself well enough that if I put it out there, I'm going to do it. Come hell or high water, I'll do it.

It is so incredibly rewarding. I'm finding that the calling to help other people wasn't necessarily coaching in the mortgage side. It is helping other people, especially women, realize their worth and give them ways to get out of that 9:00 to 5:00 grind or at least have multiple streams of income to build wealth, so that they have a voice and they're not stuck.

I did this solo episode about how what money gives us is power. If you're at a corporate job and your family relies on that income, and you can't go anywhere, I feel like you're setting yourself up to be taken advantage of, or at least you don't have the negotiating power. If you don't have to have that or you don't need it and you have these other things to fall back on, now you do own the power.

You can negotiate, even if you need that job. You can position it and structure it the way that you need it to fit into your life. It has been incredible to help women realize that and find ways to do that. To talk to people who thought they were never going to get out of debt and now they're debt-free and onto building wealth through real estate is incredibly rewarding.

I love your mission behind it and your why behind it. I feel like I'm in the same boat. There have been so many times where it's like, “I'm on a very successful trajectory there. I don't need one more thing on my plate.” I explain it this way. It's this little knock, and then it gets louder. You can't even function unless you go after that still, small voice. It’s almost like, “If I don't do this, I owe it to my Creator. I owe it to other people on the planet to get this out there.” It's those things where you can't deny it. Otherwise, it keeps getting louder.

I felt like He was saying, “You asked. I told you. Why are you not listening now?” I was like, “I hear you. I'm following. I don't know what this is going to look like or how it's going to unfold, but I hear you, and I will follow orders.” That's where we're at. I am 100% putting faith and trust into whatever it does become, is what it's meant to be. Doors are opening left and right, and I'm trusting to know which ones to walk through and where they take me. That will help people because that, at the end of the day, is the goal. It is to empower other people, especially women, and inspire them to build better lives for themselves.

That's such a beautiful gift. That, to me, is priceless. You can't put a price on that. When you are here to change people's lives, all bets are off. I can't sleep at night. Those are the things that set your soul on fire. You can be very successful on paper, but how have you made an impact? How have you made a difference? When you can take people by the hand that maybe didn't have the confidence, didn't have the tools, and didn't have the resources, and it's not, “You go do it,” but, “Let's go do it together as a team and a tribe,” and help them win, you're singing my song.

I know. We're on the stage together.

It’s so fun. When I listen to one of your podcasts, I'm like, “I would record something like that.” I'm going to listen to another one and then another one. It’s great, very simple, straightforward pieces of advice. It's like you're sitting down with a girlfriend for a cup of coffee at Starbucks and saying, “Here's the roadmap. Here's what's next.”

We need that, being able to come together as faith-based women and say, “You've got everything that it takes,” to remind you who you are. We can get knocked down in life. I had massive things that took me down early on in my journey. It was my girlfriends, the Holy Spirit, and a great team around me that got me back on my feet. If it weren't for them, I don't know where I would be. Hats off to you.

Thank you. It's so important, too, because as much as you and I know about financing and that type of thing, so many of us in my generation, even younger, and especially older, are still at this age driven by this money story that we grew up with. Breaking that tie and realizing where it came from, if it was scarcity or whatever, it's amazing how much that impacts people and their ability or lack of ability to build wealth for themselves. Helping people to understand that, see that, and break that cycle is awesome.

Lightning Round: Quickfire Wisdom From A Lady Boss

That’s so good. We are going to go to the Lightning Round with the Lady Boss. You can answer these questions in ten seconds or less. If you hadn't started with what you did in mortgage, what would you have gone into?

Veterinarian. I love animals.

I learned something new about you. People would be surprised that you spend so much time doing what?

Listening to audiobooks. That's my thing. If I'm in the car or I'm washing dishes, I have an earbud and I'm listening to a book.

That's so fabulous. Chipotle or Chick-fil-A?

Chipotle.

Your favorite way to spend downtime?

Relaxing outside or going for a walk. Anything outdoors.

What are you addicted to?

Meditating.

That's a good thing.

It could also be coffee. It's coffee.

I normally am. I'll tell you why not later. What are you reading?

I am reading Codie Sanchez’s Main Street Millionaire. It's about buying businesses. It’s good.

Best piece of advice you've ever received from a personal standpoint.

Life is a marathon, not a race. My husband, to this day, reminds me of that. Life is a marathon, not a race. Take a breath.

Most embarrassing moment.

The thing that comes to the top of my head is that I was at an event. I was nervous because this was before I spoke in front of a lot of people. I was speaking in front of 30 or 40 people. A question was asked of me, and I was so in my head about answering that I misinterpreted the question and answered it completely wrong. As I'm looking at people, I'm getting weird looks. It wasn't until later that I realized when they re-asked the question. That was mortifying. There could be worse things, but that was pretty embarrassing.

If you could spend one day with anyone in the world, who would it be and why?

Anybody in the world alive, like a real person? Can I walk the beach with Jesus?

I thought about that when you said that. That's funny.

He'd be my number one choice, but that comes after life. There are so many people I don't know that I can pick one. Codie Sanchez is on my mind because I'm reading her book, and I would love to pick her brain, but I would say Mel Robbins.

You’re a Mel Robbins fan.

I love Mel Robbins, and I would love to hang out with her.

She seems very down-to-earth and says it like it is. Describe yourself in one word.

Feisty.

I like it. Who inspires you, or who do you aspire to be like?

All of these powerful women. Mel Robbins, again, comes to mind. If you know anything about her, she didn't become a big success until she was in her mid to late 40s. That's super inspiring to me. I would say I'm successful, but I have these big goals. I aspire to continue to find the things that drive me, and I hope that I can make an impact that somebody like her has done, like through a book, an amazing podcast, and the number of people that she touches. Whether it's her or any other female like that who touches millions of people and inspires them, that would be my aspiration.

You survived the Lightning Round with the Lady Boss. Well done.

Thank you.

Home stretch, if someone met you and said, “I want to become the boss of my own life and call the shots,” what's the first step?

I would rent a hotel room all by yourself for a day or two and do some self-reflection journaling and ask yourself, maybe prompted, what's important to you, what are your current skillsets, what are you passionate about, what do you already know a lot about, and where have you been that you want other people to learn from those lessons. I feel like if you put that all on paper, something will start to emerge that will show you who you can impact and what you can do to help that group of people.

What is your definition of a boss?

Somebody who is unapologetically themselves and doesn't need permission to go after what they want to go after. They just do it.

Parting Wisdom For Boss Life: Keep Chasing Your Dreams

Any last words of wisdom?

Don't let fear keep you from chasing your dreams. I don't care if it is a super tiny side hustle, like if you are good at drawing and you start to make drawings and put them on Etsy. I don't care what it is. If you have a dream, don't let another 5, 10, or 20 years go by. This is very morbid, but I picture myself at my own deathbed and what I don’t want to have regrets about. Don't be there at the end of your life and have regrets. Think about what you would regret not doing and trying, and then do it, do it fearlessly, and go after it.

Don't let fear keep you from chasing your dreams.

What a great way to close things out. Thank you. I want you to share with my audience how people can connect with you and where they can follow you or where they can connect with you. We want all the details.

I am most active on Instagram @JenniferButcherMortgage, so please follow along. I do post a ton of educational content. I am on TikTok @She.Talks.Money. You can find the podcast, She Talks Money, on all the podcast platforms.

Thank you for taking the time to invest in our audience. I always learn so much from incredible guests like yourself to keep on keeping on. That's a huge piece of who you are, helping people to get back up, keep moving forward, and run after those God-sized dreams. As I close out every episode, it is your time to fire your fear, build your faith, and become the boss of your own life. Let's get after it, guys. Thanks, Jen.

Thank you.

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About Jennifer Butcher

Jennifer Butcher is a top-producing mortgage advisor with over 24 years of experience helping homebuyers, investors, and high-achieving women build real wealth through smart real estate moves. Known for her down-to-earth style and strategic approach, she’s not just about getting people into homes—she’s on a mission to educate and empower others to create financial freedom and generational wealth.

Jennifer is also the host of She Talks Money, a podcast where money, mindset, and multiple income streams come together. Through solo episodes and interviews with experts, she breaks down real strategies for success—covering everything from homeownership and investing to hormone health and burnout recovery.

Whether she’s guiding clients through creative financing options or helping women reclaim their power with money, Jennifer brings a unique mix of experience, education, and heart to everything she does.